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Dodge Journey P0335: Crankshaft Position Sensor “A” Circuit Malfunction

The Dodge Journey utilizes a crankshaft position sensor in order to regulate the engine timing. This sensor uses a reluctor to gauge the position of the crank. When the Journey’s ECM determines that there is an issue with the signal coming from this sensor, it’ll throw the P0335 trouble code.

P0335 Symptoms: Dodge Journey

Depending on the model year and engine of any vehicle the job of the crankshaft sensor is going to change.It’s either going to provide info to the ECM to keep the vehicle from misfiring. Or, it’ll provide necessary data to keep the engine timing in order.

Depending on whether or not the engine timing is dependent on the crank sensor is going to determine whether the symptoms of P0335 are going to be:

• Vehicle won’t start at all (timing dependent)
• Rough running motor

Often, if the crankshaft sensor or wiring itself is bad, there won’t be any RPM reading form the tachometer.

Journey P0335 Causes

Most of the time, the crankshaft sensor is going to be the cause of P0335, or the wiring will be at fault. There are other causes as well.There’s more on that directly below.

Bad Crank Sensor

The crankshaft sensor is often the reason that P0335 is thrown. They aren’t very expensive , but they can be difficult to get to in order to service them. If you think you’re up to the challenge (and know how to use a volt meter) this guide from doityourself.com will show you exactly how to test the sensor.

Reluctor Ring

The crank sensor operates by scanning a “reluctor wheel”. This wheel can become damaged over time and will no longer give a proper reading to the ECM.

One of the most common symptoms of a bad reluctor ring is going to be a rattling sound . If the engine still runs, you will hear it. This means that it has been damaged, and no longer seated properly.

If you don’t hear a rattle, the ring could have broken or missing teeth. This will cause the vehicle to not get a good reading from the crank sensor.

Wiring Issues

Due to the location of the crankshaft position sensor, it is prone to damage. Start by inspecting the wiring harness between the firewall and crank sensor for any obvious damage. After that it would be prudent to look at the wiring harness plug at the sensor itself.

This YouTube video shows exactly how to test the wiring integrity.

Less Likely Reasons

Most of the time, the reasons outlined above are going to be the problem. But, not always. Here are some issues that are (not quite as) known to cause P0335 in the Journey

Timing Belt/Chain – It is possible that a vehicle that has jumped timing is throwing the code. Here’s more on diagnosing a bad timing chain from this site.

PCM/ECM – When the vehicle’s ECM goes bad, it can throw false trouble codes. This is definitely not the place to start, but is worth looking at if nothing else seems to be wrong. Symptoms of a bad ECM (Autoblog) .

Good luck determining what is causing P0335 in your Journey. If you feel like there is anything you would like to add, please leave a comment below.

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Engine Sputter after Crankshaft Position Sensor Changed

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By keithisjonesn March 24, 2020 in Engine & Transmission

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My 2015 SE (2.4L) threw a CEL that said it needed a Crankshaft Position Sensor. I changed it out and CEL reset. All runs fine but now I have a little engine sputter every couple of seconds. This sputter can be heard in the engine bay and also heard in the exhaust as if it might be a misfire. I have already changed the plugs and ignition coils  so I know it can't be that. This only happened after the CPS was installed. I have read through the forum and some say it could be carbon build up but I don't see why it is all of a sudden after CPS change. My acceleration is smooth and it does not noticeably shutter while at cruising speed. Very few times, it has shuttered at cruising speed but not as often as at idle.  I have put Seafoam in the tank and ran through a gas tank but no change. I have used 93 octane but no change. The mechanic showed on the computer that the crankshaft desired setting is the same as actual so there is no change there. Any suggestions?

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Did mechanic check for other engine codes ? Codes good starting point even if no light on dash.

How many miles on car,  I believe the oem plugs on the 2.4 are copper core on some years, so 50k mile approx change interval.

Was it an oem sensor. Some Tec’s believe on critical components it’s better to buy a usually more expensive factory part.

But if mech showed normal signal should be ok, what was his suggestion for engine stutter?

1 minute ago, John/Horace said: Did mechanic check for other engine codes ? Codes good starting point even if no light on dash. How many miles on car,  I believe the oem plugs on the 2.4 are copper core on some years, so 50k mile approx change interval.   Was it an oem sensor. Some Tec’s believe on critical components it’s better to buy a usually more expensive factory part. But if mech showed normal signal should be ok, what was his suggestion for engine stutter?

2.4 plugs 30 k change interval

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10 hours ago, John/Horace said: Was it an oem sensor. Some Tec’s believe on critical components it’s better to buy a usually more expensive factory part. But if mech showed normal signal should be ok, what was his suggestion for engine stutter?

There was a fairly recent thread on here about some brand of plugs being more problematic that others on a Journey engine, don't remember which engine. Can't say that I would agree beyond the fact I have had issues like that in other vehicles over the years.

I also recently had a peddle position sensor go bad on a Chevy Impala. I used an aftermarket from Autozone that did not solve the problem even though the recorded values were in range. An OEM from the dealer fixed the issue.

In either case, I would also be looking for an intermittent connection. Check all of the plug wires and other related wiring for loose or dirty connections.

UPDATE: The vehicle has 140K miles on it. I used AC Delco ignition coils from Auto Zone and had to replace one under warranty already after I installed them last year. But the update is, last night after driving around, a CEL came on. I got home and checked with a scanner and it showed Cylinder 1 misfire. P0016 and P0301 and it runs rough with a shutter more often. I am going to get some CRC intake cleaner to try and blow out the carbon from the pistons tomorrow and see if that fixes the misfire. I still don't see how this could have happened overnight after changing the CPS. It was not an OEM CPS as asked above. Funny thing is, the first one they installed had to be replaced because it threw the same code the next day. It was chalked up to "dead on arrival" part and warrantied.

Because crank cps code is still coming back I think it is the primary problem. It could be causing the cyclinder misfire when there isn’t really another problem. If you want to avoid throwing another part at it you could trouble shoot more. Mark the coil on cyclinder #1 then move it to cyclinder #2; clear code and drive car; if it comes back to #1 examine plug.   

Some electrical problems only visible on an osciliscope, mechanics don’t have these, more of an electronics tec thing.

Cps seems to be an issue with the 2.4 at fairly low milage. My daughter in law just had an issue with her 2012 at 60k miles or 100k kilometres. She is 5 hrs away, local dealer decent so they changed it out. No further issues.

Let us know if you figure it out.

UPDATE on FIX: Ok so I bought a Mopar CPS for $28. Installed it and it still did the same thing. I bought some CRC Intake and Turbo cleaner ($14) from my local parts store and performed the "Professional" cleaning listed on the bottle. The vehicle runs like a champ now and no codes! 

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That’s great news it’s fixed. I use that same stuff on both my vehicles on the throttle body intake normally once a year.

I’ve  seen the same symptoms cleared by cleaning the mass air flow sensor. But you don’t have one, 2.4 is a map sensor design.

Thanks for update, that’s how we all learn. Stay safe.

2 hours ago, keithisjonesn said: UPDATE on FIX: Ok so I bought a Mopar CPS for $28. Installed it and it still did the same thing. I bought some CRC Intake and Turbo cleaner ($14) from my local parts store and performed the "Professional" cleaning listed on the bottle. The vehicle runs like a champ now and no codes! 

Let's hope it stays that way. Thanks for the update.

DID NOT STAY THAT WAY lol. The vehicle ran fine when I took it for a 15 minute test drive but the next morning, my wife started it up and drove it out of the driveway. It shuttered and threw another code. I read the code and it showed cylinder 1 misfire. So I ordered an ignition coil from my auto parts store and shipped it to my house. My wife installed it today and it works great so far. This is the second ignition coil made by Duralast that has been bad and I have had to replace. I bought the "Four pack" of ignition coils last year and within a month I had to swap out of the coils. Now I switched out my second one. 

In the end I think the issue was the ignition coil on cylinder 1, that misfired and threw the CPS off. From now on, I think I will order Mopar parts only for my Dodge when it comes to the engine. Thank you all for the help and advice!

check your plastic wire connections on the coil and any wire that attaches to it,yrs ago my daughters caravan kept having the coil go bad every so often the mechanic would replace it under warranty but then sooner or later it would start to go bad making the van hesitate he finally found the wire inside the plastic connector was shorting out to each other, he replaced the connector and no more problem..............and yes some parts best to replace with mopar, auto chain parts say OEM but at times not really

The bad peddle on my Impala, mentioned in my previous post, was also a Duralast. Since using a dealer provided OEM, no more problem.

The wire connector suggestion is the next place to go if the problem comes back.

Thanks for more follow up info.

Even oem can be an issue sometimes. Hyundai accents where shipped with junk coils a few years back. Their Korean assembled cars are often 30 percent Japanese content, Nippodenso etc usually decent stuff.

At least on a four cyclinder they are easy to change out, so it’s tempting to save a buck. See if your china brand is better than the potential oem China part. My 2009 f150 had a very annoying speaker rattle a few years ago. Pulled it out to change it to see a big China stamp on part. A vehicle with a 980k plus annual production and still out sourcing from North America, ouch.

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The crankshaft position sensor monitors crankshaft position, angle, and engine RPM, and transmits this information to the engine control module (ECM). This information is used to make adjustments to ignition and fuel injector timing to maintain engine performance and efficiency. The ECM also receives data from the camshaft position sensor, which allows the crankshaft and camshaft in an engine to be synchronized if it is equipped with variable valve timing (VVT). Crankshaft position sensors are typically Hall Effect sensors, meaning that they use an electromagnet to generate a field that changes as it nears and moves away from a toothed gear or wheel. Over time, the crankshaft sensor may become weak or fail entirely, which can lead to inconsistent or weak signals being sent to the engine computer. A bad crankshaft position sensor won't supply any signal to the ECM at all, but even a weak signal can prevent your engine from operating at its best. A damaged or failing crankshaft position sensor can cause problems with acceleration since the ignition and fuel timing may not be adjusted properly, or you may also notice rough idle, engine misfires , stalling, or poor gas mileage. If the crankshaft sensor has failed entirely, your car may fail to start at all, and this could leave you stranded. If you've noticed any of these issues, or if your Check Engine light comes on, your crankshaft position sensor may need to be replaced. O'Reilly Auto Parts carries replacement crankshaft position sensors, camshaft position sensors, and other electrical system parts to help you keep your car running its best. Your local O'Reilly store also provides free Check Engine light testing to help you begin your diagnosis and determine if your crankshaft position sensor is at fault.

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