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Review: The 2019 Trek Remedy 8 is a solid climber and supple descender

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Earlier this summer I spent an evening comparing a bunch of MTB brands’ entry-level trail bikes. A lot of these bikes sit a little over the $3000 USD mark, but at that price you won’t quite get a ‘total package’ bike. When I came across the Trek Remedy 8, I found what I was after – A build spec that didn’t cry out for upgrades.

Now the price tag on the Remedy 8 takes a step up from ‘entry-level’, but I thought those extra dollars were well accounted for. With a 12-speed Sram GX Eagle drivetrain and a Rockshox Lyric RC fork, this bike comes ready to rock. After testing the Remedy 8 for the last few months, I’d say my impressions held true – I don’t think you can spend much less on a bike that won’t leave you wanting.

If you’re in the market for a mid-spec bike that offers great value and uncompromised on-trail performance, Trek’s redesigned 2019 Remedy 8 is definitely a contender in this class.

What’s changed for 2019:

The most significant change is the new Remedy’s fixed lower shock mount.  Trek decided to do away with their Full-Floating suspension design, as they’ve determined a fixed mount offers advantages with longer travel bikes. A solid mount helps increase frame stiffness, reduces weight, and allows for shorter chainstays. They also say since air shocks are getting better at small bump compliance (which the full-floating design aimed to enhance), fixing the shock mount doesn’t sacrifice on-trail performance.

As for geometry, Trek didn’t make sweeping changes to the 2019 Remedy. The seat tube is now a bit steeper than before, and offers more insertion clearance to accommodate dropper posts. The new frame also provides more tire clearance, and can now run up to 27.5 x 2.8” treads.

The Remedy 8’s frame is built from Trek’s Alpha Platinum aluminum, and incorporates their beefy straight-shot down tube design and Knock Block headset. Between the shapely top tube, seat mast and the ground-out welds on the seat mast gusset, the frame could be mistaken for carbon at first glance. That is, until you notice the heavy-duty welds at all the other junctions.

The rear end provides 150mm of travel, which is controlled by a RE:activ tuned Rockshox Deluxe RT3 DebonAir rear shock. The Remedy includes Trek’s Mino Link flip chip, which alters the head tube angle by 0.5 degrees and the BB height by 7mm. I felt the bike’s lower/slacker mode was most suitable for my local trails, so I tested it in that setting for the majority of the time.

Ride Impressions:

One thing that might sound odd at first is the Remedy’s seat tube angle of 68° degrees. However, it’s important to remember this is the figure for the actual seat tube angle. Since the seat mast has quite a kink in the middle, the effective seat tube angle is actually a much steeper 74.7/74.2° in High/Low positions. The seat doesn’t wind up too far behind the bottom bracket, and I was still sitting in an aggressive position for pushing the pedals.

The Remedy’s 65.5 °  steering angle wasn’t too slack for climbing, and gives the bike stable handling on fast downhill sections.  The bottom bracket sits at 13.74″, which was high enough that I wasn’t smashing rocks with my pedals but still provides a low-feeling center of gravity.

Being a smaller guy, I like lightweight bikes. Even with its aluminum frame the Remedy 8 weighs in at 32lbs with pedals (which backs up Trek’s claim of 31lbs without).

In its stiffest setting the Rockshox Deluxe RT3 rear shock is very firm. While it will use about half its travel when prompted, it typically rides high and stiff making for a firm ride on bumpy trails. In the stiffest setting I found the rear end would clunk when meeting larger rocks or roots, or when it hit the ground after bouncing over an obstacle. Small bump compliance was good, so I’d recommend using the stiffest mode for logging roads or smoother surfaces.

My local trail’s climbs are mostly singletrack (above photo aside!), so almost all my climbing was done in the middle setting. This mode definitely offers the best balance of pedal support and comfort. I didn’t lose much pedalling efficiency in this setting, but the shock handled bumps much better. Some big bumps can still feel a bit harsh in this mode, so I’d say the Remedy’s uphill ride isn’t as plush as other suspension designs I’ve ridden (FSR and four-bar particularly) but the pedalling efficiency is noticeably better. I found the Remedy also pedalled quite well under standing sprints, only giving up a bit of additional bob.

After reading all about Trek’s RE:activ shock tune, I wondered if these harder uphill impacts were a by-product of the shock’s regressive damping curve . Ideally the shock is supposed to isolate pedaling inputs by resisting compressions at lower speeds, but I wonder if some larger bumps were mimicking that low-speed compression and producing more resistance than desired. Ultimately it was only occasional impacts that produced this clunky feel, which is a small price to pay for the bike’s excellent pedalling abilities.

On really technical climbs leaving the shock wide open will provide great traction and comfort, but there is some loss of efficiency. The bike will give up a little bob and sag rearwards into its travel, so I’d stick with the shock’s middle setting for anything but the roughest trails.

I also noticed the Remedy skips over chattery sections very well, and as claimed the ABP suspension remains highly active while braking. The wide-open shock willfully wallows into its travel, which leans the bike into a more aggressive downhill stance and makes it easy to get behind the saddle. While it softens trail inputs extremely well, the shock still provides enough mid-stroke support to pump you through rollers or berms, and resists bottoming out until you give it a good hard smack.

Another thing I noticed right away is the Remedy’s frame is very stiff. That big, straight down tube gives the bike carbon-like stiffness, which helps you plow straight and true through rough patches of trail. On the flipside, the well-rounded Remedy is still a snappy jumper that pops off roots and rocks easily.

Components:

Sram’s GX Eagle drivetrain performed without fault for my entire test. I’m stoked that mid-range drivetrains are as good as they’ve become, offering pretty crisp shifting and perfect chain retention thus far. With a 10-50t cassette and a 32t front ring, gear range was never a problem.

There are some house-brand Bontrager parts on the Remedy 8 including the handlebars and stem, the saddle, the 125mm Line dropper post, the Line Comp 30 wheelset and the XR4 Team Issue 2.6” tires. The Line post never gave me any mechanical issues, and I found the 125mm drop was sufficient for a medium-sized rider like myself. The Arvada saddle wasn’t my favorite but was fairly comfortable, so I never swapped it out.

The wheels feature 29mm internal width rims to spread out the 2.6” tires nicely, and they’ve taken no notable damage during my testing. I noticed the Bontrager tires roll very smoothly and quite fast for a fairly luggy MTB tread. They provide pretty solid grip overall, but not quite as much as the Maxxis Minions I got to try on this bike too.

Despite the Sram Guide R brakes having four pistons and 200/180mm rotors to grab, I was surprised to find them not biting as strongly as expected on some high-speed trails. 90% of the time they were perfectly fine, but when the trail goes from ‘high speed straight’ to ‘180 degree corner’ you’ll have to give these levers a good squeeze. ( Editor’s note: We’ve had varied performance out of the SRAM Guide brakes, but there are two things that have drastically improved any set with issues. First, make sure the compression nut at the lever is tight. We just had a set on a stock bike from the factory that were loose enough it was letting air in during the bleed. Second, once those compression nuts are tightened properly, give the brakes a proper full bleed. )

Trek’s 2019 Remedy 8 is a bike that I’d guess will either tempt a lot of buyers out of the entry level price range, or appeal to aluminum fans who are looking for a non-carbon bike with a solid component spec. I was very happy with the Remedy’s two-sided personality – It clenches its teeth when you’re cranking up the trail, yet devours big hits when it’s time to scream downhill. The Remedy 8 is available in Matte Trek Black or Miami Blue, and retails for $3999 USD.

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Steve Fisher is a staff contributor for Bikerumor. Steve has been writing about trail, enduro and downhill mountain biking (plus a few commuter bikes) for seven years. Prior to that, Steve wrote for Whistler Traveller Magazine and Mountain Life Magazine. Steve is based in Pemberton, British Columbia, an area that offers plenty of challenging world-class singletrack and makes for great photos!

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It looks like the surprisingly slack ST result is more based on poor spec communication from TREK. On some of their other bikes they include an Effective ST Angle (see the Remedy 9.7 27.5 for example), from the BB to the saddle which is more relevant to positionals and handling, where on this bike they only show the angle that the seat post actually sits at. Effective ST Angle looks more like 74-76 degrees just by putting a protractor on the screen.

Correct- on any frame with a curved/offset seatpost, you can only have a defined STA at any given saddle height. The taller you are, the slacker it is. The listed STA is the angle of the upper portion of the tube relative to flat ground, but the seat tube starts out nearly vertical/forward. I have a 2019 fuel ex with about the same STA and the first time I hopped on it felt like a tri bike it was so steep

Effective vs actual seat tube angle…

I had a 2019 Remedy 8 as a loaner/demo. Coming from an older Remedy, the Lyric is an excellent upgrade to the suspension. But that Knock Block is a deal-breaker for me. I was blocked out of my very first turn on the bike during setup in my driveway. That’s a turn I easily accomplish on other bikes and not as tight as some of my most fun trail maneuvers or even a good, long trackstand. There’s no use for a bike that I can’t point where I need it to go.

Get someone who has a background in bike journalism to explain the difference between actual set angle and effective seat angle to you.

Great review, thanks!

Hello readers; Regarding the seat tube angle… I must admit, when I re-read my text is sounded like I had given no consideration to the difference between actual and effective seat tube angles, which on this bike was probably worth mentioning. Trek’s website doesn’t list an effective STA, only the actual (and only in the mino link’s High position). My concern was people seeing that number and coming away thinking that the seat tube is super slack on this bike, so I felt the need to mention that it really isn’t. I’ve made an edit to the article which should clear this issue up. I will also get in touch with Trek and see if they can provide me with an effective seat tube angle for the new Remedy, and hopefully I’ll add that in soon. I’m actually glad these comments popped up, they made me realise I could have explained that much better. Happy trails!

Please bring the Remedy 29 back !

No need. This 27.5 Remedy absolutely shreds and climbs briliantly. I happily keep up with mates on more XC style 29ers on the ups and fly on the downs. I was all set to get a 29er but got a great deal on a 2019 Remedy 8 and couldn’t be happier. So playful and fun….absolutely stoked!

Hi Max, What size did you get? I am 182 cms and thinking the 19.5 but I have read reviews that they feel small.

I’ve put a FOX DPS shock to 2018 Remedy’s, and I realized how big piece of crap is that Deluxe RT3 with Re:activ valve. Now the suspension works as it should be!

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Trek Remedy 9.8

Remedy 9.8 is long-travel trail bike built for serious sending with FOX's all-new 38mm fork and trail-proven DPX2 shock. SRAM's latest GX Eagle drivetrain combined with carbon where it counts, like the wheels and frame, make this model fly like a bird both up and down the mountain. It's right for you if... You're an all-mountain junkie who lives for the fun only a long travel trail bike can deliver. You love carving descents and throwing down style on new lines, and you want the best 27.5" bike you can get. The tech you get A lightweight full OCLV Mountain Carbon frame, a FOX Performance 38 Float 160mm fork, and 150mm of rear travel with a FOX DPX2 shock that offers loads of adjustability and tuning options. Plus, a SRAM GX Eagle 1x12 drivetrain with leg-saving lower climbing gears, Bontrager Line Elite 30 carbon wheels that are already completely tubeless ready, including sealant, powerful 4-piston brakes, a carbon handlebar, and a Bontrager Line Elite dropper. The final word Remedy 9.8 is a carbon long travel bike with amazing suspension and a solid parts group that's light enough to stay quick on climbs. It's a perfect all-around trail bike for riders who love smashing berms and post-ride beers. Why you'll love it - Remedy 9.8 plows through the gnarly stuff, but still likes getting loose on jumps and berms - You'll fade before the FOX DPX2 shock does—it's built to help you squeeze the most out of long, gnarly descents - The FOX Performance 38 fork's stiffer stanchions help you stay on your line through chunky descents, while the GRIP2 damper lets you dial in the feel - Mino Link lets you make small adjustments to your geometry quickly and easily, even mid-ride - Wider is more stable: Remedy has clearance for up to 27.5 x 2.8" tires

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The Trek Remedy is a staple in the history of mountain bikes. The namesake has evolved greatly over the last decade, but to the die-hard fan, one can still see the DNA. Over the years it has evolved, but much of the bike’s core principals have remained. It has always been Trek’s aggressive, all mountain ready for anything trail slayer, regardless of wheel size or head tube numbers. We’ve spent six months on the latest Remedy and are ready to report our findings.

As full-time media hacks, it isn’t often that we get to experience what actual bike ownership is like. While it may seem cool at first to have your garage be a revolving door of new bikes, sometimes it’s nice to have something that’s actually “yours” and sticks around for a while.

Normally we do our best to accelerate the wear and tear a bike will receive during its life in the shorter test periods some brands offer, but thanks to Trek’s generosity we’ve been able to ride the Remedy 9.9 since August of last year. Although tempting to rush out a review in hopes of being the first, we decided to hang onto the bike and give it a proper long-term testing.

For 2019 Trek made some notable changes to the Remedy. Tire clearance has been increased and Trek now specs the bike with 2.6” Bontrager tires. Should the 2.6 rubber not be enough, the bike has clearance for up to 2.8″ tires. Trek achieved this by removing any provisions for a front derailleur and eliminating the Full Floater suspension design that they have relied on since 2010. Trek claims that the elimination of the Full Floater system increased stiffness 5%.

Trek also made changes to the seat tube. With more riders opting for longer dropper posts, Trek increased the insertion length 10mm over the outgoing Remedy seat tubes. Trek maintained the OCLV Carbon frame making process, which is brilliantly explained by Cam McCaul in video form here . Trek also maintains their Active Braking Pivot, and RE:aktiv with Thru Shaft suspension design. Both increase the bike’s action under braking, and improve its willingness to respond to terrain on the trail. I won’t be shy when I say Trek has some of the best suspension on the market.

To firmly align the Remedy in its all-around trail bike niche, Trek also steepened the seat tube angle to 68.5 degrees. The extra degree over last year’s bike puts the rider in a better power position for climbing exertions. Adjustable geometry remains, thanks to Trek’s Mino Link flip chip. The chip offers a low and high setting with a half-degree change to the head angle. It also raises the bottom bracket height from 13.70-in to 14.01-in.

So where does that leave the Remedy in respect to geo numbers? Very balanced. Though the YouTube commenters may have convinced you that you aren’t a true 2019 bike without a 500mm reach and 60 degree head tube angle, actual trail riding says otherwise.

A size large Remedy (19.5 frame) has a 66.0-degree head angle in the high position and a 65.5-degree head angle in the low position. Reach is 46.1cm in high and 45.5cm in low. Chainstays are 43.3cm in high and 43.5cm in the low position. As trail bike geo goes, it’s right in line with a lot of our favorite bikes, providing plenty good pedaling response, but still maintaining the ability to hit aggressive lines. The 160/150mm of travel certainly helps that cause.

Spec Our 9.9 model comes equipped with a Fox Factory 36 Float, GRIP2 damper. Out back is a Trek specific Rock Shox Deluxe RT3, RE:aktiv with Trek’s Thru Shaft 3-position damper custom tuned by Trek Suspension Lab. Our top of the line 9.9 model comes packing the heat with carbon Bontrager Line 30 wheels, and a SRAM XO1 Eagle drivetrain.

SRAM XO1 Eagle cranks also keep on the premium theme while four piston Shimano Deore XT brakes do the stopping. A host of high end Bontrager parts round out the build with a Line dropper post, Line Pro carbon bars and Line Pro stem. Trek maintains their Knock Block headset spec for 2019 as well. To make the increased tire clearance worthwhile, Trek specs 27.5×2.6 Bontrager SE4 Team Issue tires. With all that carbon, this bike tips the scales at 27.8 pounds!

Coming into this review, we were already fans of the previous generation of Remedy, however, we were curious to see how the elimination of the Full Floater suspension would impact the ride. I can say with full confidence that the 5% stiffness increase was immediately noticeable… just kidding. Jokes aside, the bike certainly doesn’t lack in stiffness.

The reason that Trek eliminated the Full Floater design was because they decided that suspension technology had advanced to the point that it was no longer necessary. We whole-heartedly agree, as I didn’t once long for the outgoing design.

With 160/150mm of travel, the numbers would actually put this bike more in the Enduro category. In fact, the Trek Slash has the same travel as the Remedy, however, the Remedy’s 27.5” wheels and slightly different geometry make it a much different bike.

Going Up With such a low weight and balanced geometry, it’s no surprise that the Trek Remedy impressed us with its power transfer and climbing ability. One area where it exceeded ahead of bikes like the Canyon Strive however, is in bump roll-over and sensitivity while climbing. Some bikes with less effective suspension designs tend to get hung up on square edges or rocks, robbing your forward inertia. The Remedy simply floats over them. It isn’t quite to the level climbing sensitivity that Naild suspended bikes like the Marin Mount Vision or Polygon Square One have, but it’s still ahead of most of the competition. Any bike can climb a fire road well with a locked out shock, but climbing technical, rocky trails is where great bikes are separated from the good.

We also found the riding position encouraged long days in the saddle. The 74.7-degree effective seat tube angle puts the rider in an effective position to transfer power without falling off the back of the bike and losing traction at the front. The Bontrager Arvada saddle was also quite cozy on the rump.

Going Down It wouldn’t be a Loam Wolf bike review if we didn’t send a bike through bike park hell, and the poor Remedy has gotten more than its fair share, surviving the rugged tech of Mammoth Mountain, the flow of Sky Park and the endless jumps of Snow Summit. After two months of bike park duty, the rear shock began to weep worrisome amounts of internal fluids. After a quick email to Trek, a new shock arrived and has been trouble free since.

While we thought the suspension did a good job going up, it’s especially impressive going down. The Remedy gobbles whatever is in front of it, but will still happily pop up and over a trail obstacle at a moment’s notice. The ultra low weight contributed to that feeling as well. While the 2.6 tires did an amazing job in the soft, kitty litter soil of Mammoth, we found them to be a bit much on our home single track and on the bike park jump trails. We’d probably move down to 2.5” rubber for most of our riding, but that choice is entirely terrain dependent. We can say that regardless of tire spec, the Remedy’s geometry encourages the nailing of corners and the boosting of jumps. I did have to get used to the sensation of the Knock Block however when doing whips and tables. If it were up to me, I’d ditch that feature.

The Wolf’s Last Word

It isn’t often that we get to spend this long with a bike, and after spending this much time with my Remedy it really reminded me of the love a person grows for their bike. The Trek Remedy has won us over with its impressive ability to do absolutely everything. As a stand-alone do it all bike, the Remedy is hard to beat, and it manages to do all that without any fancy travel adjusters or levers. Instead it relies on good design, and top of the line suspension performance.

The best part is that it presents a solid value. While the 9.9’s $7,349 price may give some a shock, it actually isn’t a bad value compared to similarly spec’d bikes from other brands. Step down to the 9.8 model and you get practically the same performance for just $5,499. Suffice to say we like this bike a lot, and see it as one of our top picks for the trail bike category in 2019.

We just received our 2019 Trek Slash 9.9 rest rig and we’re excited to see how the Remedy’s big brother stacks up. Head over to our Patreon to watch the exclusive unboxing video.

Price: $7,399 Weight: 27.8 lbs Website: trekbikes.com

CHASSIS Frame: OCLV Mountain Carbon; 150mm Fork: Fox 36 Factory Float Grip, 160mm Shock: Rock Shox Deluxe RT3, RE:aktiv with Thru Shaft 3-position damper, tuned by Trek Suspension Lab

COCKPIT Brakes: Shimano Deore XT Handlebar: Bontrager Line Pro, OCLV Carbon, 35mm, 27.5mm rise, 780mm width Headset: Bontrager Knock Block Integrated Saddle: Bontrager Arvada Seatpost: Bontrager Line; 150mm Shifter: SRAM X01 Eagle; 12s Stem: Bontrager Line Pro

WHEELS Hubs: Bontrager Line 30 54T Rims: Bontrager Line Carbon 30 Tires: Bontrager SE4 Team Issue; 27.5×2.6

DRIVETRAIN Bottom Bracket: SRAM DUB PF; 41x92mm Cassette: SRAM XG-1275; 10-50t Cranks: SRAM X01 Eagle DUB; 32t Derailleur: SRAM X01; 12s

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Trek Remedy 9.9

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Weight / M - 12.91 kg / 28.46 lbs (with TLR sealant no tubes)

At a glance

Remedy 9.9 is the top-end trail bike in the family. An OCLV Mountain Carbon frame, FOX Factory fork, exclusive RE:aktiv with Thru Shaft damper, Bontrager carbon wheels, and a SRAM X01 drivetrain come together in Remedy 9.9 to make a high-performance, high-value shred-sled that’s fast and ridiculously capable in rough and technical terrain.

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Specifications

• Frame OCLV Mountain Carbon main frame & stays, tapered head tube, Knock Block, Control Freak internal routing, Carbon Armor, ISCG 05, magnesium rocker link, Mino Link, ABP, Boost148, 150mm travel
• Fork Fox Factory 36, Float EVOL air spring, GRIP2 damper, tapered steerer, 44mm offset, Kashima Coat, Boost110, 15mm Kabolt axle, 160mm travel
• Shock Fox Factory Float EVOL, RE:aktiv with Thru Shaft 3-position damper, Kashima Coat, tuned by Trek Suspension Lab, 230x57.5mm
• Wheel Size 27.5"
• Tires Bontrager SE5 front, SE4 rear, Team Issue, Tubeless Ready, Core Strength sidewall, aramid bead, 60 tpi, 27.5x2.60"
• Chain SRAM GX Eagle, 12 speed
• Crank SRAM X01 Eagle Carbon, DUB, 32T alloy ring, Boost
• Shifters SRAM X01 Eagle, 12 speed
• Brakeset Shimano XT M8120 4-piston hydraulic disc
• Handlebar Bontrager Line Pro, OCLV Carbon, 35mm, 27.5mm rise
• Saddle Bontrager Arvada, austenite rails
• Seatpost Bontrager Line Elite Dropper, internal routing, 31.6mm
• Stem Bontrager Line Pro, 35mm, Knock Block, 0 degree
• Grips Bontrager XR Trail Elite, alloy lock-on
• Headset Knock Block Integrated, sealed cartridge bearing, 1-1/8" top, 1.5" bottom

Q: How much is a 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9?

A 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9 is typically priced around $7,500 USD when new. Be sure to shop around for the best price, and also look to the used market for a great deal.

Q: Where to buy a 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9?

The 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9 may be purchased directly from Trek .

Q: How much does a 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9 weigh?

A 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9 weights M - 12.91 kg / 28.46 lbs (with TLR sealant no tubes).

Q: What size wheels does the 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9 have?

The 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9 has 27.5" wheels.

Q: What size 2020 Trek Remedy 9.9 should I get?

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